My goal is to have an advise or tips to overcome such situation as my country is full of such water steams that is a road itself or roads that cross them.
I understand your issue, but I’m afraid we need to be more specific.
Let’s discuss your first example. I noticed that the satellite images are from this year. This is good.
Honestly, I don’t see any clear tracks crossing the now dry riverbed. Is this a place you know in real life or just some place you found on Maps?
I think you will need to specify where you know the road starts/ends on each side of the riverbed. You can share these as dropped pin links, or you can draw on a screenshot with satellite mode turned on.
The road approval system is mostly automatic and if there is nothing in the satellite image to support the existence, it might be impossible or very difficult to get approved.
Some have reported that getting smaller bits (increments) of a road approved could be worth trying. Or it might be worth that more LG could collaborate on this.
I would like to call on @ermest and fellow roadsters to also share their tips on this.
Thanks for the tag, @MortenCopenhagen
Hi @Port thanks for raising this issue.
Unfortunately, for many reasons, these types of roads are extremely difficult to approve.
The first is that Google discourages adding roads that use dry riverbeds or cross rivers via fords. This is because these routes are extremely dangerous in heavy downpours, as a flash flood could endanger the safety of those using them.
The second is that the identification of such roads is initially done by AI, which is trained to recognize easily identifiable roads but would likely reject any road that isn’t clearly visible.
The best solution would be for a local authority to publish an official map showing these streets and forward it to the Google Maps help community so they can review it and report the issue to the relevant Google Maps team.
In the absence of such information it is obviously possible to try to add the road, but it must be done with a lot of patience and taking into account some fundamental things.
Keep it simple: Add only one small segment at a time. Long roads are more likely to be rejected
Stop your edit whenever the road changes its characteristics, e.g. change width, or terrain/pavement/color type. Changing road characteristics confuses the AI (non-homogeneous path).
If part of the road is covered by a large shadow, end the edit above the shadow.
Take for example this road, added on July 7th. In the image below I highlighted a few points that can cause a rejection, if you draw the road in a single shot.
I think there is no single point of truth for road edits as some times I was extremely lucky as the road segments was very long and there are change in the road characteristics and even covered by shadow / trees and cross reverbed and still google accept it from me. and some other situation edit is pending for approvals and then vanished.
for example these two long roads drawn in one/two shot breaking some of the rules!
I don’t know even who compete it to the top of the mountain.
and this one
I think in two shots.
I am drawing roads in countryside and its full of trees, mountains shadows and riverbed.
and I have some situations that I think I need to complete 500 Meter I need 5-10 road edits. I hope AI and its algorithm will be enhanced in feature and I keep get lucky!.
Thank you very much I have found that most of my edits are pending / rejected because of trees / shadow or change in the color of the soil or pothole filled with water .
Every time I get edit rejected/pending I asked my self can’t he see that this is a road why does he “google employee” reject me edit but as you explain that its the AI who give priories and reject it.
its really hard to find plain road without shadow, trees or change in the soil and I think AI make it more hard for us to contribute in road maps.
patience and hope for AI development is the hope.
but some times AI I think will prevent us from drawing a roads for example this points
This home who do you think people get their
and all these farms in the whole area how can we get there without crossing the reverbed?