All About Rabdentse Ruins In Pelling, Sikkim

Sikkim is not only rich in natural beauty, but also it has mysteries and is full of historical importance. But due to our ignorance, we only discuss the landscapes, snow, and hills of Sikkim. It is believed that the Kingdom of Sikkim was founded by the Namgyal dynasty in the 17th century. It was ruled by Buddhist priest-kings known as the Chogyal. During British Raj, it became a princely state of India in 1890. After Indian independence, Sikkim continued its protectorate status with the Union of India after 1947. So, we can understand that Sikkim has a rich history of at least 300-400 years.

Rabdentse is one such place in Pelling, Sikkim which has natural as well as historical importance. From the main road, one has to walk an approximately 2 km trail to reach this place. The trail is passing through a thickly wooded moist temperate Oak – Chestnut forest. It is so dense that during mid of the day also the sunlight cannot enter some places. The trail is easy for everybody but older person need to be very cautious before starting the trail.

Let us discuss the historical importance of the place. Rabdentse was the second capital of the former kingdom of Sikkim during Chogyal’s reign. Chogyal means ‘righteous ruler’. It is believed that the reign of the Chogyal was foretold by Guru Rinpoche in the 8th century when he arrived in the state. In 1642, Chogyal Phuntsog Namgyal was crowned as Sikkim’s first ruler in Yuksom. After that, his son Tensung Namgyal shifted their capital from Yuksom to Rabdentse in the year 1670. Consequent to the repeated attacks by the Bhutanese and Nepalese over the many invasions, the capital city was reduced to ruins by the liberating army of Nepal. The Archaeological Survey of India has declared Rabdentse a heritage monument and has undertaken the needed preservation and restoration measures.

After walking for about 30 minutes through the forests, you will find the ASI board and beside this a chorten. There stood a throne comprising three standing stones called “Namphogang”, which was the pulpit of the judges from where judgments were pronounced during the active days of the king’s reign from Rabdentse. Further ahead, the ‘Taphap Chorten’ is seen in the semi-ruined condition. This was the entry point to the Palace and people seeking access to the palace had to dismount from their horses and remove their hat as a mark of respect to the King here.

After crossing the fourth and the final courtyard wall you can see the palace ruins in the centre. It is situated in a most commanding place from where we can clearly see the entire southwestern region of Sikkim. The ruins of the palace are made up of two of the northern and southern wings. The northern wing was the residence of the royal family. And at the southern wing, three chortens are there where members of the royal family offered incense to the deities.

Walking back from the ruins of the Rabdentse Palace, we realized that for a traveler to get a better understanding of Sikkim (and even of the historical significance of the tourist places one visits here), it is important to visit the historical capitals of the state and understand the connection. If you are in Pelling, you must visit this place. Also please note, the Rabdentse Complex houses a bird park named Sidkeong Tulku Bird Park, which is named after the 10th Chogyal Sidkeong Tulku Namgyal. There are about 200 varieties of Bird species in this bird park. Before heading towards Rabdentse Ruins you can spend a few minutes there.

How to reach :

Rabdentse can be easily accessible by road. It is better to plan for this place along with Pelling. From New Jalpaiguri railway station, Pelling is 135 km and will take around 5 hr. If you want to come from Gangtok, it is around 125 km. Hire a vehicle and combine a visit to Rabdentse with the Pemyangtse Monastery, the Khecheopalri Lake, and the Kanchenjunga waterfalls. We have visited these places along with our Ravangla tour. To know more about our plan, click this link.

Where to stay :

There are plenty of options to stay at Pelling as well as Gangtok. So accommodation is not an issue in this circuit.

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Thanks for sharing @Bongyatri . I have visited this place last year. The walk is really tiresome as not only we have to walk about a km but also we have to move uphill. I found a bird sanctuary there but it was closed then. Drinking water facility and toilet is also available beside the ruins. An eatery is also there near the entrance.

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I have visited 4 years back. That time also the sanctuary was closed. And yes the walk is tiresome indeed.

@Bongyatri Nice photography, Thanks for the post.

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@Bongyatri such a beautiful detailed post …loved it

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The place seems to be indeed interesting, but why not to share your own experience, instead of a copied text from here and copied photos too.

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@ErmesT for your information this content is written by me and the photographs also clicked by me. If you want i can mail you the photos. I may have shared this content earlier also in a Popular travel website named Tripoto. There I use my name as Bongyatri. You can check my website www.bongyatri.in. Is it prohibited that I cannot share already shared photos or content to any website? I am bit confused with your reply. For google review also the content which i have copied here is written by me only. It is very much humiliating statement by you. You may have ask for clarification. But without asking me anything how do you come to a conclusion that the content or photos are not owned by me?

@DeniGu please check whether I have done any wrong things

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Thank you for your feedback, @Bongyatri

The scope of the reply is to protect the Original content. When a user is using some content previously created and posted in the web, our aim is to protect the “original Content” so a good practice would be, to avoid this kind of misunderstanding, to always declare that the article was previously posted in a website/blog/social media.

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In addition the content of some of your reviews can be found in Wikipedia, where it was written in 2018. Can you kindly confirm that you are the author of the articles in Wikipedia too?

@ErmesT

Regarding content I will mention if I already have shared the content anywhere else digitally.

Regarding reviews, it will be better if you specify which review. Otherwise how can I understand what you are talking about. And if i found that the content is exactly copied from wikipedia I will paraphrase the statement for sure. But for that reason I have to know what are the reviews you are talking about.

I am very new in google map review and local guide connect. So I have thought that reviews on some of the places which I already have visited earlier (may be 4, 5 years or more than that) will be worthy for the future travellers. With this intention I am giving review in Google maps.

It is great that you want to help others, @Bongyatri , so let go a bit in deep with this first.

According to the Maps user-generated content policycontributions must be based on real experiences and information”. It makes sense, because this give us the possibility of contributing with reviews and photos.

So, what is a review?

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This is why our reviews are important to others: because they report our experience of a place, how we found it, what could be improved, and so on, and not a series of information that we can easily find online, and often written better than we can do.

If you really want to help others please write real reviews, not contents that we can find in the web.

E.g. your Review of Manjarabad Fort seems to be “deeply inspired” by Wikipedia. Well, writing that kind of text (as I explained, I cant call them Reviews) is totally useless. If you scroll down the listing you will see that Google Maps is providing the information already.

I tried to scroll down the reviews (the place has more than 14 thousands reviews) without being able to find yours. So, no, your review will not help others, because Maps consider your review “not helpful”.

Moving back to original content, you may have noticed that I provided a link to everything I am taking from online contents. According to the post that I already shared with you even “If you do not use a direct quote, tell us in your own words what you read somewhere else. Do not copy and paste it without using quotes or attribution. Include a link to the source.” The source should be the original one (e.g. the one you used for writing your blog).

Hope this is clarifying the rules of original contents and what a review is.

I wish this will help you to write meaningful contents here and in your reviews

@ErmesT

I got your point. So as per you regarding a review of a place ‘I have visited this place, it is awesome, splendid’ type of review is more helpful than a little bit of information about the place like who built it why the name of the place is like that…

And for Manjarabad fort review I forgot to add photos. I will add soon so that you can get the idea whether I have actually visited the place or not. As per my experience reviews with photos are much helpful for the future traveller. May be I am wrong.

@ErmesT You are not clear about the rules. You have mentioned that "If you do not use a direct quote, tell us in your own words what you read somewhere else." This is not appropriate for my content as I already mentioned that the original content is written by me at my own website. Have you got any report against my write up claiming that same is written by another person? Check your first comment. This is very much humiliating to mention my article as copied from somewhere. Please note that the mentioned somewhere is also owned by me.

Regarding the review of Manjarabad Fort, first of all it may be deeply inspired by wikipedia but first you have claimed that the reviews are copied. Moreover, I am surprised to see how a content moderator enforces his own thought as general. For your information, the google map is not showing the information, it is showing a link to another website where you can get the information (see your own snapshot in the previous comment). So don’t you think it will be beneficial for the google map users also to get the information in Google Maps itself as a review rather than clicking another link?

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do you think this type of words will inspire a reviewer or content writer? @ErmesT may be a content moderator but he cannot represent himself as a representative of all the Google users. Because the type of review that he is expecting is not very helpful for me (as a general Google user). How did he mention the same as useless? Is there any rule that if the reviews are not appearing in the most helpful tab, you people can mention it as useless? There are more than 14000 reviews on that fort. Do you feel all will be helpful? Then can you mention those which are not so helpful as ‘useless’?

He is continuously treating my travel content (on which the comments are going on) as a copy from another source. But several times I have mentioned that the original content is also written by me. I have one question. Do you people get any claim on my write-up saying that the write-up is anybody else’s? Then how did he claim like that? The content is copied from my OWN website. Is it prohibited? Then what is the point? However, I have mentioned in my content the link of my own website.

In my future writeup also may be the content is already shared on another website for example Tripoto. So, do I have to again mention the link to Tripoto? Do you have any rule stating that already shared content can not be shared again on this platform? If there is no such rule and I have not copied my content exactly from another writer’s content then what is the point of mentioning my own source again and again?

Hi @Bongyatri ,

Unfortunately, you have failed to remove the content that is not yours, so your post will be moved to the off-topic archive.

We would like to encourage you to keep creating great posts, but also to always make sure that you share content that you own or have permission to use.

Hi @Bongyatri ,

We saw your question about your post being moved to the Archive section of Connect.

After further checks, it was determined that your content is genuine. That is why the post is now restored on Connect so other Local Guides may enjoy it.

We are sorry for the inconvenience caused. We want to encourage the community to create great posts, but also make sure that the content they share is their own or used with permission.

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@MashaPS Thanks a lot for sorting it out.