11-19-2017 07:56 PM
@Flash wrote:
If you'd like detailed advice on an edit, you also have the option of providing all the data including exact GPS location, any existing POI, and exactly what data you were trying to add or edit. With that mapping experts can look it over and let you know if there are obvious and/or likely issues that you can fix in your next attempt.
How do we get this information to you @Flash
11-19-2017 08:04 PM - edited 11-19-2017 08:06 PM
No one trusts anyone these days.
Do you want to tell me again that my 5,000+ edits are worthless again? How about my mom's account, the first 300 or so edits often went through without a hitch, and then magically out of the blue she gets hit with the 'not applied' hammer. She made suggestions to many places she didn't go to, many of the edits were those that I made with this account which weren't applied and all of a sudden she deserves more trust than I do? In your case, you say that trust levels look at a user's past edits to determine whether or not the algorithm should reject them. With my mom's account, I even managed to close down a clearly operating Indian restaurant at lunchtime! Instead, you have clearly attempted to speculate using a contradiction and are therefore questionable. So if I want my edits to go through, I should create a clean Level 1 account and be on my merry way until it gets hit by the not applied hammer? In fact, I bet I can create a new level 1 account, spam listings until I get hit by another ban hammer and then start again from square one.
Clearly if Google cannot review in due time, find extremely trusted users such as reintroducing the regional lead program to help ease your workload because clearly you don't have the time to review. Why should you get the last say when you don't know anything about our local areas? Spend time more on features such as getting those badges and the additional points for longer reviews being rolled out and actually innovating for a change, because clearly you think the moderation process is just plebeian work for low IQ people who manually reject something that is clearly in accordance to the guidelines/rules of the map.
@Anonymous, congratulations on removing Google Maps. I hope you'll be able to find other projects that are eons better than the current state of this forsaken app such as Waze, OpenStreetMap or even anything outside the mapping concept. You'll make a mark better out there.
@IDW, from what you've said did you try to make simultaneous changes to multiple fields in one edit? In this current climate, it is recommended only to edit them individually and submit. I was once told off for points-mongering because if multiple places need changing, you should change them all at once for one set of points instead of rapidly suggesting changes to individual ones, but I honestly believe that all your edits should be treated for consideration and separately (think of checking the facts, you can choose which ones are correct and which ones are wrong). Like I illustrated here below, for example:
This recent heartache of the 'not applied' syndrome is clearly the result of the algorithm shift around the 10th of October. A translator in Thailand has incredibly slowed down his suggestions because his endeavours to add the English translation of listings in Thailand are also being unfairly not applied. For most of my Google Maps journey I had suggested more successful edits than photos I have uploaded, but now that balance has shifted because I cannot suggest edits without the grounds of being immediately not applied.
So all my attempts of climbing the trust ladder over the last 10 months (and formidably climbing it at an incredible pace) has been reduced to null because you think it's appropriate to just cut off my legs and then put a cast on it writing "I trust that you'll get better" on it? You have no grounds during this time to advise such Gregg. Blah blah blah blah civil war.
11-19-2017 08:05 PM - edited 11-19-2017 08:14 PM
6LinksRule wrote:How do we get this information to you @Flash
Simply create a new thread and provide all the details. For additional edits you can make further posts in the same thread.
We won't be able to find an issue in every edit, some will have been denied for other reasons and some might have been denied simply because the mapper has lost some trust. But if you're one of the ones affected by the new algorithms, by looking at multiple edits we normally can find some issues. Modifying those types of edits should help to regain editing trust.
Due to the volume I receive, I do not respond to unsolicited private messages
11-20-2017 12:13 AM
Everybody has more or less frustration and agree with you . After all in spite of so much efforts of using time and energy still if Not Applied, felt bad.Hope there will be more simple rules so that we felt being part of it. However please be not dejected keep trying hoping some changes.
11-20-2017 01:10 AM
In this regard i would like to emphasize some facts. The trust and encouragement was more at the initial stage of LG Level. The more the points i got the more Not Applied edits were reflected. Most of the edits are simple and genuine which are being rejected which definitely affect our further incentive and sincerity.
11-20-2017 01:16 AM
I just tried to add a new Dollar General store that opened last month. This is the second time I've tried to add it but got instantly rejected. I even added photos that have GPS tags in it.......
11-20-2017 01:42 AM
11-20-2017 04:51 AM
@BruceDM Now there is a week between your post. Whats going on now. Can we expect a fix, if so when?
11-20-2017 05:15 AM
Please be aware that we are told that GPS tags in photos have little to no value when it comes to the verification process. It is too easy to add bogus GPS tags, so it is not a reliable data source. Taking a photo on location when using (inside) the Maps App, is different because Maps itself then records the geo-location of your phone at the moment of taking the photo.
With regards to your new Dollar Store, did you check if it is listed on the companies website?
If Google is using the companies website as the authoritative source to verify the existence of stores and the new store has not been added yet to their website, you stand a good chance that your edit cannot be verified.
11-20-2017 06:35 AM
Google Maps operates in a very foolish manner. Maximum entries in India are wrong, misleading & highly confusing. In western countries, people rely on map because accuracy is there but that is not the case in India. If Google Maps doesn't accept an Edit, it is their loss nor ours. Gradually, Google Maps would loose it's credibility that's all.
We LGs also would stop sending edits gradually if you continue to reject them.
And what algorithm you are talking about...? Please specify, it is an ambiguous word.
If I can not get my own home address corrected on GM despite numerous attempts, there is no use of sending edits.
In recent past, I sent many edits in respect to places near my home with supporting photographs and they were rejected...! What would I gain from sending spams to GM....