Why is the allocation of IDs so problematic

[OusmaneCisse]

I do not subscribed to the issue of an employee or otherwise of Google.

Despite some or most of us are not employee of Google, we play a part in the sustenance of Google, one way or the other.

Even free lance journalist, working for flagships of news papers around the world, are allocated IDs.

Let alone Google.

It is necessary that Google provides us IDs, or authorized us create one.

I don’t think one dears do some things dangerous with IDs.

Knowing very well the consequences that lays ahead of him or her.

What ever some kind of urgency is needed.

[OusmaneCisse]

Since ID poses a common question to most of the authorities, I am asking if it’s proper to create my own Guide ID, using Google’s logo

[MortenCopenhagen]

@OusmaneCisse

No sir. Noone is allowed to use Google’s logos without written permission.

Please use your profile page in the App if you want to show someone what you are doing as a volunteer.

Cheers

Morten

[ErmesT]

@OusmaneCisse , as clearly explained by @MortenCopenhagen , this is against the Local Guides Program Terms and Conditions : “The Local Guides logo is a Google brand identity and is reserved for official use only. Do not use the Local Guides logo, pin, or any other Google imagery in any of your online or offline materials without expressed written permission*.*”.

Additional details about the Local Guides brand can be found in The Local Guides brand .

If you see someone using a branded name or logo, please report the profile in the Google Maps App

[iyudhi]

@OusmaneCisse just want to add to what others said above, if there are any authorities asking for your ID while you’re taking photos of places, for example, you can open your Local Guides profile on Google Maps app, as this will serve as your “ID”.

Most important though, be nice to whoever’s asking about your activity, and explain them what you’re doing. Most of the time it will be fine. But if they’re still pushing for you to stop, do not push back, and just walk away. It’s not worth it. There are many other places that you can contribute to.

[iyudhi]

@OusmaneCisse I replied to your other post, and will copy and paste my response below. Next time, please do not create a new post for the same topic, to keep the discussion concentrated. I know what you’re asking is different from the other post, but it’s basically a continuation of it

If there are any authorities asking for your ID while you’re taking photos of places, for example, you can open your Local Guides profile on Google Maps app, as this will serve as your “ID”.

Most important though, be nice to whoever’s asking about your activity, and explain them what you’re doing. Most of the time it will be fine. But if they’re still pushing for you to stop, do not push back, and just walk away. It’s not worth it. There are many other places that you can contribute to.

[MortenCopenhagen]

@OusmaneCisse

Here are why Google is very unlikely to let volunteers represent the Google company while making contributions to Maps.

Some business owners understand the power of big international corporations. If they see your ID and think you are from Google they might bend over backwards to please you because they hope for special favors like a positiv review from Google/you.

They might offer free samples, gifts or otherwise provide better service than normal.

This can screw your reviews compared to what service is offered to people not representing Google. I prefer to read reviews that are not biased in this way. How about you?

Secondly, if you misuse your ID Google will have no ways to stop or sanction you as they have with their employees. Employees can be terminated and the ID can be revoked/taken back.

And should a local guide representing Google do something really bad this could make Google liable for your actions. The lawyers at Google will never recommend running such risks.

Being a Local Guide is a fun hobby to me. When talking to businesses and others I always make sure to clearly state that I’m a volunteer and I do not represent or work for Google.

Again please use your profile page in the App if you need to explain what you are doing. Suspended local guides will no longer show as a Local Guide on their profile page.

Cheers

Morten

[PaulPavlinovich]

The reason is really simple @OusmaneCisse you, I and anyone else who is a Local Guide do not represent Google in any way shape or form, that is why they will never issue us an ID.

It is right there in the terms and conditions you agreed to when becoming a Local Guide “You must not at any time represent yourself in any way as a Google employee or a representative of Google or its products or services.”

https://support.google.com/local-guides/answer/10287202

Paul

[MortenCopenhagen]

Hi @OusmaneCisse

I just share a workaround on how to more easily use our Maps profile pages as an ID card.

Please see

Your ID card solution

and let me know what you think.

Cheers

Morten

[OusmaneCisse]

I wish to invite friends to join me in celebrating my Google Local Guide Level 7 achievement.

Please note rewards are the end products of hard work, sincerity and dedication.

I hope and pray all members of Local Guide Connect, Google (as the main body), Moderators, Googlers etc, become one big mighty family.

Let’s share for the socio-economic development of our dear universe.

However, the lack of an authentic Google Identity (ID), posed a common concern and hindrance to our work, as guides.

As I asked.and will continue to do, if it’s authorized for me to create my ID, using Google’s Logo. Even there and then the signatures of Google is the question.

I thank you for your attention

[OusmaneCisse]

Good evening on this auspicious occasion of Valentine’s Day, i wish to share the generous support of a little girl, who rendered support by collecting blown away flower baskets, on a windy day, during which Ecole Solidarite Senegalo-Gambienne alias Ecole SUNUGAM International, assembled their pupil, in preparation of the event.

Beside it’s inspiring to see celebrations on Valentine’s Day, three inspiring Guiding Stars Couples.

My special thanks goes to all my local guides colleagues, googlers, and all members of Google for a job well done.

DeniGui, azhikodan, Mikeinthefalls, Ewaad_3A, Ale_003, Stephen Abraham, Stéphanie, OWL, Ar1609, Gasparkaren and all others who in one way or the other participated on to this Valentine’s Day, i owe you sincere respect and heartfelt gratitude.

Finally however, i further wish to take this opportunity (once again to remind you about the dire importance of the allocation of GOOGLE IDENTITY CARDS.

I thank you so much for your attention.

Have an enjoyable Valentine’s Day

[OusmaneCisse]

@Ermes T &TraciC

It’s disheartening to note the segregation and sideline done to local guides, who faces difficult task in the execution of duties.

We are pushing much too far to be allocated IDs. Nontheless everyone knows the importance, guides play in the development of Google.

To say we are just an i dividual member of the Connect Community, is some how discrediting.

Those of us who were or are seasonal or freelance journalist, knows even freelancers are allocated freelance IDs. Even though they are not players of a particular news paper house.

All organisations the world over have their identity. Let alone Guides.

We or i do not personally want to be limited to showing only my profile.

It’s better to have a physical Identity. It once happen to me that a group of organised organisation confronted me on the issue of Google ID. Pointing to a few other personnel’s who are not employed, with identities.

This group pointed out " you are being use or utiliser as a propaganda tool or machine, by Google, for their own interest. If Google respected you, they would have given you IDs.

To you Mr Ernest T, i am not talking about the show of an identity in the electronic media out there with Google.

What i or we need is a physical Identity card.Not that of a profile image. Is like claiming to be in possession of gold, when in fact it is in treasure or treasure island.

GOOGLE I THINK ITS ABOUT TIME YOU REVIEW YOUR POLICIES, ESPECIALLY THE ONE DEALING WITH EMPLOYERS IN CONTRAST WITH GUIDES.

THE SECOND THING IS CENTERED ON THE ALLOCATION OF REWARDS. I DO NOT HAVE A CLUE HOW MY OTHER COLLEAGUES CLAIMS FOR REWARDS.

WHAT EVER MAY BE THE CASE, I WAS PERSONALLY ASKED TO CLAIM FOR MY REWARD.

I WONDER HOW CAN I CLAIM, WHEN THE NAME OF MY COUNTRY, IS NOT LISTED AMONG THE LIST OF COUNTRIES, WHOSE CITIZENS ARE THEMSELVES GOOGLE LOCAL GUIDES.

THIS IS TRICKY AND MOCKERY TO OUR PERSONAL INTEGRITY, DIGNITY AND RESPECT.

GOOGLE PLEASE CONSIDER TREATING US FAIRLY.

IMAGINE YOU ARE NOT EVEN WILLING TO GIVE US ADEQUATE STORAGE FACILITY. WHEN WE USE OUR PERSONAL RESOURCES BOTH PHONE, INTERNET AND TRANSPORT TO SATISFY YOU.

ITS GOOD MORALS TO GIVE THE DEVIL ITS DUE.

[OusmaneCisse]

Guides should be protected by Google on whose behalf we work.

If i were the founder (s) of GOOGLE, i would’ve done positive moves on the issue of IDs and Rewards.

Knowing very well the international community likes my product, compared to others.

How many billions do you make a year. Or what is the annual turnover of Google.

Taking just a fraction in which both IDs and Rewards are settled, is like taking a cup full of water from the ocean.

To you Moderators, Googlers others, please consider our plight. We love Google and are willing to sacrifice our meager resources to making a better world map.

Please do not baffled us by cheap popularity, as is often done "you are popular

[OusmaneCisse]

I wonder and keep wondering what is wrong in the allocation of IDs to Guides.

This is boost the morals of guides and as well facilitate our work.

Mr AdamGT, have a better experienced. We lived in a Cosmo and Metropolitan world.

Things have to be more organised. I think the love guides have for Google, they dear not do something detrimental to their progress.

Please give us Identity CARDS. We in third world or under develop countries such as Africa are the most vulnerable.

[abeloscar]

@OusmaneCisse estoy totalmente de acuerdo con tu comentario, es muy necesario tener ID que nos identifique fehaciente como Local Guides, por mi parte puedo aportar solo esta situación como ejemplo ya que me ha sucedido al tratar de solicitar permiso para tomar fotos de un lugar o tienda a pesar porque lo hago y muestro en mi celular con mi perfil para identificarme como Local Guide no obstante esto fui rechazado.

Apesar de algunas de estas situaciones recibí muchas muestras de agradecimiento, las mas importantes son las que los dueños de algunas tiendas ponen sus comentarios en las reseñas. quiero aclarar que que yo soy Local Guides porque me gusta y no pretendo nada económico. Saludos abeloscar

[iyudhi]

@OusmaneCisse You have made multiple posts in the past regarding Local Guides ID card, and you’ve been given several explanations with regards to the status of it, especially from the following post

https://www.localguidesconnect.com/t5/General-Discussion/Why-is-the-allocation-of-IDs-so-problematic/td-p/3556553

In the future, please try to add to an existing post if you want to keep continuing the conversation, instead of creating new post

From the following post @MortenCopenhagen already shared an unofficial workaround for this. Otherwise, please take a look again at the recommendations that already given to you in your previous posts

https://www.localguidesconnect.com/t5/General-Discussion/Your-ID-card-solution/m-p/3559026

[ErmesT]

@OusmaneCisse , as mentioned already by @iyudhi , as you have several post already ongoing about this subject, with several replies in every post. There is no reason to start other two posts in the same day about the same subject. For this reason, to keep Connect organised and for everyone to be able to follow the conversation, I’ve merged your two last posts in the original thread.

As explained already by several active Local Guides:

• Local Guides are not Google Employees, end we are not contributing on behalf of Google
• Local Guides is a volunteers program, and we do not represent Google in any form
• Local Guides have no special permission to circumvent businesses wishes or local law on taking and posting photos online: it means that we must follow the Law ind to respect what the business owner, or his representative, says. If they say NO, it is no for everyone

As you tried to tag me in the title of your post, let me add that, if necessary, I show this screen to show that:

• I am a Local Guide, as clearly visible because my profile is visible in the “Official App”: Google Maps
• They can see my contributions of other places, so they can choose if my contributions are Good enough. Normally after that they say “yes please” and I ask them if there is something “special” what they would love to see in their listing in Google Maps

Obviously showing your profile means that you should have good contributions to show.

This also avoids the risk of fraud by people who often introduce themselves to businesses as “Google representatives” using a fake ID. Can you recognize a true Google ID from a false one? I do, for the simple reason that Google “doesn’t issue any ID” so if someone shows up with an ID it means they’re a cheater

[OusmaneCisse]

As the debate (on IDs) intensifies, i thought to myself, there is need for the adoption of some forms of conventions or protocols, for the protection Google Local Guides.See which is suitable.

I am begining to learn how some of

our superiors think, regarding the fate of guides.

Let’s avoid the frequency “you are not employed by Google”.

Who do you think will take us serious, when Google, on whose behalf we die, tries to sideline our efforts.

Even the minority has got protective rights, journalist regardless of freelancers, have got their protective rights.

I think Moderators and Googlers, (some of whom are at helm of affairs of Google), are perhaps ignorant of the acute miseries guides encounters in the line of duties.

With the millions of pictures and videos posted on the maps, there are a billion more important things that are yet to published.

I am personally not only interested in taking images and videos. The scope of becoming a guide ( i believed), is by far beyond the mere taking simple images ect.

There is time Google review her policies, to better suit the modern world.

[Ivi_Ge]

Hi @OusmaneCisse ,

To keep Connect more organised, I have merged your post about Local Guide ID with the already existing one.