Typical Delays in Contribution Stats

Local Guides frequently report that their contributions are not being counted and that the system is broken.

In this post, @ErmesT and @MortenCopenhagen will explain how frequently the various contribution figures are normally updated. Without this knowledge, it is easy to falsely blame the system for malfunctioning or to suspect Google Maps of cheating when awarding points to Local Guides.

Some points require approval

Some points are given immediately while others are given only after a delay. Delayed points are delayed for a reason. Contributions like Edits, Addition of new places, Addition of new roads, and Merging duplicate places all need to be approved by computers or humans before the points are awarded. Notice the text in the red box in the screenshots below.



Points are applied immediately for contributions that do not require verification.




This includes Photos, Videos, Reviews, Answers, and Facts Checking.



For contributions that require review and approval, the points are applied approximately 24 hours after approval.




This includes all types of edits. The time it takes to get approval varies greatly.

Points for new roads are applied within 24 to 72 hours of approval as illustrated below.

Some statistics are calculated less frequently

While the count of different contributions may show up quickly in your contribution stats, the total number of points, your total number of photo views, and the badge statistics are updated only once or twice per week. Sometimes even less frequently. In the screenshots below the numbers that are updated the least frequently are marked in red.

Also on your photo and review contribution lists some figures are updated less frequently:

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Numbers that are updated instantly or within a few minutes are colored GREEN

Contributions that need approval and then wait for 1-2 days are colored YELLOW

Contributions that are updated only weekly or bi-weekly are colored RED.

Why are the red numbers not updated in real-time?

It all comes down to deciding how to prioritize the computer resources required to run Google Maps. Some functions, such as navigation, can never be postponed. Showing photos, search results, and place sheets can also not be delayed without causing user annoyance. Counting our contributions has a lower priority because it is not necessary for Google Maps to function. Tallying our total photo views and total points has an even lower priority. As a result, the red numbers are updated infrequently and only when the necessary computer resources are available.

There are over 150 million Local Guides and over a billion Maps users. Many with thousands of contributions and millions of views. If these non-critical totals should be updated on a daily or hourly basis Google would have to purchase and manage thousands of new servers. All of these servers will consume energy simply to keep our totals updated more frequently. It is understandable and reasonable for us not to prioritize this task. What are your thoughts?

Understanding how frequently our contribution stats are recalculated and updated can help us avoid becoming overly frustrated.

So waiting for the next update is often the best we can do. But keep in mind that the system is often updated and things will change over time.

We hope you found this information relevant and helpful.

Cheers

ErmesT and MortenCopenhagen

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Thanks for involving me in this post, @MortenCopenhagen , which I hope will give a clear answer on Points and Views updates.

I know that for many Local Guides the points obtained and the amount of views of the photos are very important, but personally I think we should take it easy and enjoy contributing in a relaxed way.

I mean, I hope each of us wishes to continue being a Local Guide for many years, so what’s two, or even five, days late in updating the data?
It would be much worse if the data weren’t updated in real time while driving, don’t you think so?

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Great post and so well explained and concise! Keep up the good work. Everything you say in this post makes sense and knowledge is key! Yes, knowledge and understanding are key to preventing frustration and people jumping to the wrong conclusions. Personally, I couldn´t care less about points, but for those that do, I hope they read this post.

Kudos!

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Regelmäßig kommen zu bestehen Rezensionen die Aufforderung diese zu aktualisieren und was passiert nach einer Aktualisierung der gesamt Punktestand wird durch die Aktualisierung reduziert. So etwas lÃļst natÃŧrlich Begeisterung bei mir aus :woozy_face: :sob:

@MortenCopenhagen Great explanation. If only new mappers get to read this there would definitely be less queries and anxiety among mappers. Generally mappers start from basic and common contribution like Photos and reviews and like you said they get points for that instantly and that gives them the thought that all contribution are instantly rewarded. And after facing delays they jump to help, policies and Connect etc. You have simplified it nicely.

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Thanks for such useful information with us.

Cheers :raised_hands:

From INDIA

:india:

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Hi @MortenCopenhagen it’s been weeks and my points on edits are still delayed. I can’t wait to complete the ‘circle’ and become a master at every milestone.

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@MAdriel

If you want feel free to share the details about 2 of your edits including screenshots of the edits and their current status. And I will try to spot if there is room for improvement.

Cheers

Morten

@MortenCopenhagen few queries I have that you might help with, we know photos are posted right away and rewarded instantly too but we have seen photos also get hidden. So my questions are

  1. Does photo get hidden right away or after AI finds it violating the policies?

  2. When a photo gets hidden what happens to the Point one earned when uploaded that photo and what happens to the views of that photo ? Are those points and views deducted from the Contribution ?

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Hi @Trail_blazer

The spam filter is running immediately after you upload photos = before they go public. But it also can reevaluate photos repeatedly and when photos get flagged.

This is why hidden photos can have views.

Points are calculated based on your public contributions. So you will lose points when an image (or review) gets hidden. Prior views are not lost.

Cheers

Morten

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Interesting question, @Trail_blazer

Unfortunately it is not so easy to answer, because the situation is a bit contradictory.

The theory has been clearly explained by @MortenCopenhagen , however the real situation is a bit different, and I have escalated this issue several times.

This photo is private, and as you can see it has more than a million views.

It was made private two years ago, when it was my top photo.

It means that time by time Google Maps improve the evaluation algorithm, and the contributions are evaluated again.

One of the reasons why we do not realise that our contributions are private is that we don’t lose points when a contribution is made private, even if the rules are declaring the opposite.

I would love to lose the points, because this would be a signal that not all our contributions are publicly visible, a d we will have the opportunity to report an issue immediately

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@MortenCopenhagen ok but views are not gone from your contribution until we delete that particular hidden photo ?

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@ErmesT yes that’s how I found photos can get hidden, one of my top shot had 3.4 Million views but I searched that POI from other mobile and tried to find that photo I dug deep but surprisingly i couldn’t find it. That photo had hit the stagnancy in views means it’s no more there.

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@Trail_blazer

You wrote

views are not gone from your contribution until we delete that particular hidden photo ?

Correct.

Cheers

Morten

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Thanks @MortenCopenhagen

I have checked way more facts than shown here

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Hi @MAdriel

The responsible team is aware of these problems and a solution is in the works.

In the meantime you and I can do anything about it.

Cheers

Morten

@MortenCopenhagen Thank you. I hope it gets sorted

Thank you for your help!
it may help a lot to understand how to use it in correct way!

@MortenCopenhagen this is very enlightening. It clears up some mysterious stops and starts in the flow of the data.

Meanwhile, I agree with @ErmesT that “we should take it easy and enjoy contributing in a relaxed way” rather than frantically chasing the numbers.

Ideally, our purpose here should be to help other Google Maps users, more so than seeking to earn points and prizes. (Impossible, I know).

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