Trip to DPRK / North Korea - "I know people told you not to come here."

Last year I had the privilege to join a budget tour with Koryo Tours (there are few other tour providers which organises trips) and visit the DPRK for a few days. It was a unique and mind-blowing experience, which I recommend to everyone who ever thought about visiting North Korea or who wants to do an adventure a bit outside of the norm.

You can walk freely within and around the grounds of the hotel, but other than that you are “confined” to the activities done together with the group. I’m usually a solo traveler and love exploring things on my own, but it was definitely worth the experience. The tour was packed full with activities and they made a huge effort to show us as much as possible. Here are some of my highlights in no particular order:

  1. Being in the DPRK

This sounds very straight-forward, but from leaving the plane in Pyongyang to getting back on it at the end of the trip, the feeling of “Oh my god, I’m in North Korea!” never quite goes away. Everything you do, from taking a piss at the airport toilet upon arrival to seeing the monumental and historically significant sights, you will always have this insane special feeling.

  1. The Victorious War Museum

Unfortunately, you cannot take pictures inside the museum, but it is unlike anything you have ever seen. Probably the most impressive museum I have ever been in. It is an iconic explosion of historical extravaganza. Outside the museum you can get a tour of the captured war vessels such as the US submarine Pueblo, which has been turned into a little museum itself. Inside the actual museum like lots of things you experience in North Korea you will be exposed to propaganda. I encourage you to see it more like an alternative view of things that happened and keep an open mind (I also went to the War Museum in Seoul, South Korea a week later and was exposed to pretty much the same intensity of propaganda just from a different side).

  1. Taking a ride on Pyongyang Metro

That might be just a personal feeling of exhilaration, but for me there is nothing like taking the metro in a new city. You get a feeling for the city, its geography and more importantly for the everyday life of the city’s people. As everyone is going about their own business, you have the chance to observe the most authentic vibe of whatever city you are in. In Pyongyang there is only two lines and it feels similar to metros like in Russia or Belarus.

  1. DMZ (Demilitarised Zone) and JSA (Joint Security Area)

The border area which separates North Korea from South Korea is an eery place like no other. It represents such a huge political divide, but if it wasn’t for the military presence and your knowledge of what is at stake, it almost would seem like a beautiful recreational area or a park with a few strange blue huts. It was a very humbling experience to be so close to that line which is just a stroke on the map, but stands for so much uncertainty and conflict.

  1. Juche Tower

A monument named after the ideology of Juche overlooking the city. It centered on a big square close to the river. You can go up and get an amazing view over the city.

  1. Arch of Triumph

Very similar in shape and size to the French Arc de Triomphe in Paris. We were there when school kids were rehearsing for the Mass Games (a huge massive event towards the end of the year). The sun was setting while the students were “chanting” their routine and the instructors gave orders through the megaphone. It was just a very atmospheric sight.

  1. Mansu Hill Grand Monument

One of the most sensitive sights we went to displaying two huge bronze statues of Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il. A lot of people come here to worship and the respect the leaders so we were instructed to dress appropriately and appear respectful in the pictures. Voluntarily we could purchase a flower bouquet to lay down in front of the statues (which I did, because when in Rome!) before the whole group bowed respectfully before the leaders. While the whole procedure did not appeal to my own beliefs, it was an extraordinary experience which made me feel connected to the people and its habits.

  1. Getting a Feeling or Making Contact with Locals

Admittedly it is quite a task to get an authentic experience or account from anyone living in DPRK about how life is for them. We were allowed to talk to whoever we wanted if we got the chance, but there is the language barrier and we usually were rushed from one event to the next. However there were certain experiences, which made me get an impression. We visited a local elementary school, where they put on singing and dance performances and we were able to observe English classes in action. While all those naturally felt quite rehearsed, I had another experience when looking by myself for the bathroom (yes, I have a small bladder), while the rest of the group waited on the bus. I walked through the dim lit corridors of the school and encountered students who often quite shocked by the sight of a tall white person stopped in hesitation but then switched to a routine, where they would stop in front of me and bowed before they would go about their own business. I was later told that this is what young people do to show respect to an older person. It felt real and very humbling that these small kids would apply their cultural customs to an alien from abroad. The kids in general were really nice and some of us got to play ping pong with them.

At some point we went to a small local fair ground, which was full of rides and attractions. It was refreshingly trimmed down, no annoying people in colourful costumes or big flashy lights. Some of us went to do bumper karts and playfully “crashed” with the locals. I loved the eager looks on the kids’ faces who desperately tried to bump into you as the international language of bumper karts demands. We also went on a free fall tower (where you had an amazing view on the sun setting over Pyongyang), which had to stop and go down on the first try, because one of the Korean girls had thrown up after we had been shot up. We came down slowly and the girl visibly embarrassed and distressed left the attraction to go clean herself up. While this sounds more like a funny anecdote in the context of North Korea it just reminded me how we are all the same everywhere in the world.

When were on the way back to the airport our local North Korean guide thanked us for being a respectful group and said something which I will never forget: “I know, your friends and family have told you not to come here, but I’m very happy you did so that I could share our culture and customs with you.” It was painful to hear her conscious awareness of how the country and its people are perceived abroad. I imagined living in a country which is hard to leave and you are aware that everyone in the world thinks you are “evil”.

My experience of the DPRK was despite the political situation and the propaganda we have been exposed to, in the end people are just people, going about their life and making the best out of it. Above all we have been made feel extremely welcome!

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OMG North Korea is in my wish list. Great post mate. I envy you :smiley:

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Thanks man, I tried to go twice over the last 10 years or so until finally the third time it worked. It is quite a project to organise it, but the tour providers to the heavy lifting and it is definitely worth going if only for a few days. They have much longer tours as well, where I assume you would see even much much more :slight_smile:

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Hey there!

Thanks for sharing with us, looks like you had an amazing trip.

I traveled to North Korea 5 years ago back when it was still extremely strict in terms of tourism rules. Nevertheless, one of the best experience of my life. Everyone was so friendly and genuine. I posted loads of videos and photos to google map.

Its a shame that most Google maps reviews in the DPRK are littered with TROLL comments.

Take care.

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Hey, yes, I noticed that as well. I reviewed a lot of amazing places and I get notifications when people write their non-sense spam questions. I always flag them as inappropriate and Google usually deletes them quite quickly.

Glad that you had a great time there too! :slight_smile:

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Hello @danieldreimer ,

Thank you so much for the amazing post. I really liked the heading you chose, since North Korea is indeed a really unusual travel destination. Many people never even consider visiting it, based on their presumptions about the country and the current political situation there.

While I was still an university student, one of our teachers who taught Korean went to Pyongyang, and he told us a similar story of not being able to go anywhere unless it was scheduled. But he was left with the same impression as yours, people were extremely kind and polite to him, but they were also somehow afraid of talking to him, even though he spoke Korean.

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Thanks @LilyanaZ , much appreciated. It definitely is a very special and unique place on Earth to visit, I would encourage everyone to look into visiting, if they have the chance. As far as I know, US Americans, Israelian people and anyone who identifies as a journalist or photographer will not be allowed to go.

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Hi @danieldreimer ,

I would also like to step in your post and express how thrilling your story about North Korea is!

For quite a time it has been my dream to visit North Korea. The first time I had any contact with anything about this country was during my first year of pursuing my studies in Beijing. It was when I was having my Chinese language year and was living in a separated dormitory only for boys. I remember that there was a designated floor only for North Koreans and that they used to walk together and wearing badges of their leader on their clothes. I used to see all of boys playing volleyball together on the sport fields of the university and they just looked like any other foreign students (the uni I was in is China’s most diverse university where you can basically meet people from any country of our world).

I remember last year, while I was still living in Beijing, I was checking the options of going to Pyongyang - one could go with a train, something that I would really like to try one day. He he, actually I still keep somewhere in my home the list of prices of the train, the hours, etc. You can also take airplane - both Air China and North Korea’s national carrier offer flights. As far as I remember Beijing is one of the few destinations that you can take a flight for DPRK. How did you reach there?

I am curious to ask you while you visited, did you get the chance to use their local money? I heard that they are quite rare and not easy to find. A friend of mine gave me some as a token of our friendship. I would like to share some photos of them with you, you can check one of mine posts - 我的爱好是通过收集货币来保存记忆.

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Hi @TsekoV , thanks your comment and sharing your experience.

The badges and pins were definitely something worth pointing out, but I forgot to mention it. In the DPRK everyone has to wear them (I think from the age of 17?). They are either images of the leader or simply the North Korean flag. I found it equally impressive as scary.

I flew out from Beijing and back there again. Some people took the opportunity to take the 24h train ride back and see a bit more of the country. I bet it is exhausting, but they did get to spend some more time in the DPRK.

We usually were only allowed to spend dollars, euros and yuan over there. However, there was one shopping mall where we could exchange to actual DPRK money, but we had to change it back to euros before leaving the mall.

I definitely recommend everyone going there, if they are up for a bit of an adventure and a different experience to most other travel routines :slight_smile:

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Superbb post @danieldreimer .

Simply amazing.

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Thank you, @Kavita1 ! :slight_smile:

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@danieldreimer you have given a beautiful description of North Korea. True, the image we have is that we get from Newspapers. Nice to know there is a different face for the country. Thank you. :slight_smile:

Pleasure @Indira_IllathuVala ! Hope you can go some time! :slight_smile:

@danieldreimer - three places I would like to visit in my lifetime: Cuba, Iran /Pakistan / Afghanistan, and North Korea. All countries where Americans can’t really travel to these days.

I am curious like @TsekoV as an American how were you able to travel there because of the US travel ban took effect in 2017? I know Beijing is the jumping off point to fly in from and back. I couldn’t imagine DPRK would allow foreigners to travel by train since they control what you can or cannot see.

How was staying at the hotel? Not in terms of comfort, but the monitoring of your every movement? I know you cannot leave and walk around outside without chaperons (aka your tour guides). They are responsible for you while you are in the country. Did they treat you differently than other non-American tourists in your group?

Tagging @ErmesT @FaridTDF @SergeySud @Stuart_C . I know you will find Daniel’s Pyongyang trip fascinating.

Cheers,

Karen

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Thank you for tagging me on this post @KarenVChin

Great experience indeed @danieldreimer . I had some similar feeling the first time I visited China on 1992, but in that case most of the “rumors” about a deep and tight control of the visitors (I was there for one and a half year business trip) were just rumors, while in your story there is much more to “read between the lines”. At the end of the story, is true that we are all humans and, as you said “people are just people, going about their life and making the best out of it”.

This is true in every part of the world.

Thank you for sharing your experience

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Hi @danieldreimer ,

I have felt the same as you. Every time I would see them walking together something like 10-20 people and wearing the badges every day. I am not sure at what age it all starts, but what is for sure that they are made to show greatest respect.

So you have also been in Beijing! I call this place my second home and something always brings me back to this megalopolis. I remember when I was searching for the tickets for going to North Korea at that time you could only fly with DPRK’s national carrier as Air China stopped their flights to this destination. I am not sure what is the situation now. As for the train tickets, even though buying train tickets in China is a little bit different than what I have seen in my country - you can buy train tickets from countless small booths throughout the whole city, online, at the railway station or special designated ticket offices, I was surprised by the way how you buy the international train tickets. There is only one designated office where you can buy the tickets (in advance).

I am curious while you entered the mall and you could use North Korean won, did you see any coins of this currency or do they only have paper money? : )

I am really looking forward one day to going there!

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Hi @KarenVChin ,

What you mentioned about the travel ban is quite interesting. I have heard that there are actually nations that are not allowed to enter DPRK, but I never knew if it is really real for real. : ) I have heard that, for example, if you a foreigner and you decided to visit South Korea first and then go to North Korea, the latter wouldn’t allow you to enter their country due to the stamp you have on your passport of the South Korean flag. I have no idea if this is true or not, but it is all very intriguing.

Something else that I have heard is for China’s Tibetan Autonomous region. There are also travel bans. Do you know something about it? My Indian friend told me that, people from India would never be allowed to enter Tibet, nor do Americans. However, I believe this is not quite true, as while I was travelling there in our group we did have American citizens. Have you heard something about this?

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Hey @KarenVChin , thanks for your comment. I am not sure, if you maybe misunderstood, I am German (living in the UK), so I’m not sure about US travel restrictions at the moment. At the time US and Israeli citizens were not able to travel to DPRK and no one, who has any sort of journalist or photographer background. I am not sure how the situation is at the moment, maybe with the talks that are happening at the moment here and there things will loosen up in the near future? You actually can travel by train (this option was taken by some of my co-travelers on the way back, it is a long journey back and as far as I remember they were staying one more night on the DPRK side of the border to China in a small town). It might not be as strict as you imagine it. I guess, if you get caught off the train in places where you are not supposed to be, you might get into trouble or just get deported immediately, but I guess there is not much to see from the train other than countryside and small towns and villages.

The stay in the hotel was really like in any other hotel. We were treated kindly. For example we were in a hotel in a small town outside of Pyongyang on the last night and we didn’t want to be stuck in the small hotel bar, so we sat outside in the courtyard. When they saw this they prepared some chairs and light for us and served us drinks all the way from inside the whole night, which was lovely. Obviously, I wouldn’t know about any other kind of surveillance which took place at our visit. I sure did think about it, but at least I did not notice anything suspicious.

Hey @TsekoV , I liked the vibe of Beijing, but I don’t think I connected to the city that much. Me being the precious flower that I am and also having lived in Japan for a while so being used to their polite manner, being in Beijing is certainly a change of pace and the abruptness and elbowing takes some getting used to :wink:

To be honest, I’m not quite sure about the coins. I want to say there were very few coins, but I don’t remember perfectly. The denominations are so high, so the majority of the money is definitely on paper.

I heard similar things about being in South Korea first, but nothing official. We had a very thorough briefing and they give you lots of things to prepare and read and as far as I recall they never mentioned anything. Also, if you are worried about DPRK stamps in your passport when visiting other countries, you don’t have to be, as the visa you get will not be attached to your passport. They will just give it to you as a piece of paper and then you have to give it back when you leave the country (as if you were never really there :wink:

Tibet is an interesting topic (I actually wanted to write a post about it soon) as I feel they change their regulations quite frequently concerning who can and cannot enter. It is probably best to always check the current regulations at any time. Quite interestingly, I wanted to add the Mount Everest Base Camp on the Tibet side as a location on Google Maps as the thing as a whole does not seem to exist, but it said that it was impossible to add something to this location currently. So it seems the rules are quite strict at the moment in general :-/

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Hi @ErmesT , thanks for your comment. China is such a huge country and to be honest I havn’t seen that much of it. To me in terms of politics it comes across like it is trying very hard to please everyone. It seems to like to present itself economically open and liberal, but then there are so many questionable political construction sites: Tibet, Taiwan and most recently the Muslim “concentration camps” in the North I believe. Again, that certainly does not reflect the people and I do want to see more of the country itself. You have been there a long time, so you probably can give some tips of which areas are good for discovering. (I only have been to Beijing, Hong Kong and Tibet)

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Es un viaje impresionante @KarenVChin lo que realizó @danieldreimer poder tener la visión de un Local Guides, de lo que sintió visitar Corea del Norte :north_korea: me conmueve ya que su manera de ver las cosas es muy objetiva y clara, sin los apasionamientos publicitarios de ciertos países que están en contra de el.

Como sea, su resumen nos da una visión muy fresca de este país tan exótico si se permite la palabra, pero me quedo con la reflexión final de Daniel, son personas iguales a nosotros que desean lo mismo que nosotros.

Karen uno de los paises que mencionas tuve la suerte de visitar, que es Cuba :cuba:, me parecio muy interesante y económico, con unas playas espectaculares, con algunas limitaciones, pero sin ningún tipo de control u ostigamiento sobre mi persona, en todo momento me sentí libre de ir por donde desee.

Farid.

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