Does this ever happen to you?

You’ve been out shopping all day with your wife, girlfriend or partner. Maybe it’s a family affair and you’ve got the kids with you too, one hanging off each arm, not to mention all the shopping bags that you’re carrying after all you are the family pack horse on such excursions. Anyway you get the picture. It’s been go, go, go since you left home, you’re all hungry and it’s time to catch your breath, stop for a moment and grab a quick bite to eat. Nothing special, just something quick, and healthy. Maybe a takeaway from a street vendor, a small café, or a fast-food takeaway place. You come across the perfect place. It might be on the street or a place in a shopping mall.

You’re about to enter but you’re a Local Guide and your eye catches what you think is a good shot for Google Maps. You drop the shopping bags, let go of the kids, and prepare to take your snap. But, and it’s a big BUT! There’s one problem. It’s a busy street or busy strip in that shopping mall .There’s people everywhere. You try to wait for that perfect moment to take your snap but you realize that in this situation, such a moment will just never come. There’s a continual procession of humanity and they can see that you want to take a picture, but they don’t know why or that you’re a Local Guide. Some look at you rather suspiciously but then again, some give you a smile. What do you do? Do you wave your hands and try to signal to them to stop so that you can take your photo? Do you get the kids, your wife, girlfriend or partner or all of them to help out and interrupt the marching procession? Well you just don’t have time to think do you? The only thing in your head is that photo for Google Maps. Reluctantly, you decide to take life into your own hands and being careful not to have young children in the frame you take a quick snap.

I, myself, rarely if at all, take photos in such situations. I try hard to make sure no one is in the frame. However, on late Saturday afternoon this was my reality. I took a quick snap of this Sushi bar we were about to enter. It’s on one of the busiest strips in Melbourne CBD, on Swanston Street. Later during a much quieter moment at home, I decided to look at the photo and debated for quite sometime on weather I should or should not post it on Maps. I looked carefully at each person in the frame and could see that most, even a young boy on a scooter, were looking away, or their mobile phones, marching on just going on with their business. While pondering, still undecided if I will upload it or not, I see a message on my phone egging me to upload my photo. Well it’s Google so I decided to upload it and write a quick post. If you’re interested you can see this here.

A moment ago, I had a look at this photo on Maps and to my surprise, it’s quickly become the feature photo . In fact, it has already attracted nearly 6,000 views! I decided to look back at some of my other sushi bar photos that I had taken on previous occasions and it hit me! I said to myself, well the photo does show the real scenario as it is! Without all the people in the frame there it wouldn’t be reality. It does show the true experience that one would have at this place and at such a time of the day.

  1. What do you think, would you take a shot like this and if you did would you upload it on to Maps?
  2. Just take a good hard look at the photo and try to imagine it without the people! To help you with this, below I’ve added a few photos of such situations. Can you feel the difference in the two different situations?
  3. Do you share the view I’m making here, the photo above shows “the real experience” and the examples below don’t, they’re more like a ghost town?

I’d love to hear your thoughts on this.

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@AdamGT

I have noticed to my surprise that the AI selecting cover photos has become more relaxed to having people in storefront photos. So much so that having a few people in the frame might increase your chance of getting featured or become the cover photo.

This started maybe 6 months ago.

I still strive to blur faces if they are recognizable.

Cheers

Morten

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You touched on a very good subject. I’m in the same situation most of the time.If the photo is to be edited, I share it. Some places look very contrary to my taking photos. I feel this. Actually, if Google gives a special t-shirt or badge to guides above a certain level and the places that see it at least draw their bad glances. @AdamGT Thanks for this message

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Hello @AdamGT

Thank you for the post, you touched on a good subject too, Photos.I have realised that the Google AI promptings for photos to be uploaded has nothing to do with if it being good or not which is not nice.

Secondly some photos which are featured are against the stipulated rules and regulations. I called attention to this on one of my post some months ago. As local guides one would really wish the AI can even be trained to be more strict on photos(faces,group photos etc)

Lastly I generally try to take the shots,as long as the faces are not in focus or looking my direction and also not recognisable. In our own part of the world,the crowd is a job !

Cheers

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I haven’t noticed this @MortenCopenhagen as, as I mentioned in my post and as you can see from the other example photos, I rarely if at all, take photos in such situations where there are lots of people in the frame! This is why I hesitated to upload this particular photo.

But can you feel the difference in the situations I have described? What do you think about the underlying point I am trying to make about the “reality” or otherwise depicted in the example different photos? Is it better for our photos on Google Maps to depict “the reality” of a place rather than the “ghost town” look that so many, well of my photos show?

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Yes I would guess that many are in the same situation @Gezendunyali as you and I and many of the photos taken and added to Maps are perhaps, as you have said, contrary to the reality and this is precisely why I wrote this post. I wanted to flesh out what other Local Guides think about this issue.

I’m pleased that you felt the difference in the situations I have described. In your opinion do you think it is better for our Google Maps photos to depict “the reality” of a place rather than the “ghost town” look that so many, well of my photos show?

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Yes that is true @SholaIB the Google prompts to upload are at times puzzling. Mostly it is pretty clear-cut that the photo(s) that Google is prompting you to upload should not be uploaded however the point I am making in my post is in the case where this is not so clear cut.

Do you agree that the faces in my photo are not in focus or looking in my direction and clearly not recognizable? Crowds are common in many places and hence the point of my post. I’m interested in your thoughts regarding our Google Maps photos, what do you think is better, do you think that our photos should depict “the reality” of a place rather than the “ghost town” look?

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Hello @AdamGT

I agree that the faces are not looking in your direction yes. Neither are they recognizable. I hardly know really.

A reality is quite nice in many cases that makes it more interesting.

Cheers

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Hi @AdamGT

I take many pictures and try to post pictures where there are no people or not towards camera. This is very hard to post pictures without people in a populous city where I live. In some places we cannot avoid people.

The above is the screen shot of a very crowded mall in Chennai in India.

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actually, sometimes I take very nice photos showing the place, but I can’t upload them out of respect for people.but as I said, if there is something that shows that we are a real guide, maybe the owners of the place will treat us more warmly. :ok_hand:t2: :smiling_face:

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Hello @Gurukrishnapriya and thanks for jumping in on this topic. While of course I agree with the need to protect peoples privacy, I just wonder if taking photos where there are no people reflects “the reality” of the world that we live in and as you say, in populous places we cannot avoid people in our frame! By the way, unlike my cover photo, I cannot see too many people in your photo of the shopping mall in Chennai. Did you load the photo that you had intended to?

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Like you @Gezendunyali , sometimes I do not upload photos that I have taken. Most often this is because of privacy reasons and regardless of how much editing I try to do.

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This is the problem every LG has, whether to upload or not. I found this quite useful to LG community.

Yes @AdamGT I have uploaded in Google Maps.

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I think photo with human either walking or standing has got life in it @AdamGT I usually take photos of locations with human, or at least with their back into the photos. When taking empty landscape of buildings or shops, it looks to me as there are no clients. Of course, nature or landscape photos should be without human in it.

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Hi Adam

For me I’ll take the photo and not shared it on google map because it’s may be Violation of privacy rights for some one and make problem for him.

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I think your post is relating every local guide @AdamGT

I also can’t stop me to taking photographs in such situations.

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Hi Adam, it is a bit of a vexing question, where people show the context (e.g. busy street front) and crowds (so implies safety) I don’t think there is anything wrong with it. I would try and avoid photos of children and if someone is particularly identifiable such as the lady on the left looking nearly at you and the lady on the phone then I would suggest blurring their faces.

Paul

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You @AdamGT are right in everything.

**1-**I would take the crowded picture.

2**-**I would also uploud it.

**3-**Yes because people are making bussineses posible,many customers are what shops want,and want others to see.And a success to be seen in Google Maps.

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In that situation I will take couple photos and publish the one with less faces looking at the camera or blur them if it is the last choice @AdamGT

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I agree @Gurukrishnapriya , this is an issue that we all face from time to time and this is why I thought to post about it and raise it for discussion. I am playing the Devil’s advocate because I’m wanting you to think about this issue and I’m trying to flesh out your thoughts!

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